• Hello, I'm New...Why YuGiOh Matters



    Thank you all for the feedback and support on the series. I hope all of you find it helpful but I especially hope you can point new players to this series and say “read this”. This week on Hello, I'm New...we will look at a specific set and address common questions I have seen come up with it online and in person.

    The comments and questions regarding this set have been around since it was first announced, and continue to this day. So today, let's look at this question:

    I’m a Marvel/DC/Comic fan. I might get DnD, but why should I bother with YuGiOh? Do I need to buy it?

    YuGiOh and its rollout was probably the first big controversial subject I remember being a part of. The questions were many:

    Should you buy it? What's up with the artwork? Why the serial numbers? What's good if anything in the set? Should I mix it with the other sets? Can't we just skip this one?


    The Early Controversy

    First, there was AvX. Then came Uncanny X-Men. Then we saw DnD and some DC on the horizon. But before we even saw Batman or Superman enter the fray, we got Baby Dragons and Marshmallon. And people lost their minds. Literally.

    If you weren't around for it, there were two camps: embrace it or ignore it. And many people just ignored it. They didn't buy it and instead stuck with the cards and characters they recognized. And for in store play, when all your friends are doing that, no big deal. But then the competitive bug caught people, and they started paying attention. Certain cards became critical to playing at a higher level, or were answers in themselves. The game changed and the focus became clear: sets are not to be entirely ignored if you plan to play at any level of competitive play.

    The second controversial thing was the serial numbers on each die. To use a specific card you needed the specific die with the matching serial number. The questions mostly raised were if all the dice for a card need to match and if you would even need any to match to use it. Based on the amount of people who did not bring matching dice to Worlds, most played it very casual in their local scenes. But what did we learn at Worlds? Yes, you needed at least one matching die for the card and it would be strongly enforced.


    Why It's Different

    Prior to the set coming out, I could not have named a YGO character to save my life. No familiarity with the IP, no interest in the game or cartoon or any versions of it. Which is why it was such a turnoff to so many people. It wasn't familiar, so it wasn't interesting.

    Another different thing, the art was horrible. Not in a specific bad-artist kind of way, but in a screen shot kind of way. The picture were not as good as they should have been, which lended to the lack of appeal. No one was going crazy for this, because most in the people into the game so far were comic fans. A lack of quality artwork can really be a turn off to comic fans in general and I think this showed that to the community.


    Why should I buy it now?

    Whether it is officially out of print or not, it is safe to say that it is slowly leaving the market. I find it harder to find packs of YGO in general. So before you are paying $3 a pack like some do for AvX, buy it while you still can. There are quality playable cards in this set. There are cards that continue to be tier 1 competitive inclusions. The aforementioned topics that were an early turn off for this set are largely ignored now. And the value has held since post-Worlds 2015. I paid $13 for a Blue Eyes White Dragon rare right before Worlds and thought I was overpaying for it. Go look at the average selling price now. It was a steal.


    What are the must-have cards?

    There are tier 1 cards here, must-haves for competitive team builds. There are tier 2 cards, utility and useful in certain situations. And then there is everything else. In the everything else, there are good cards, just not ones you need to hunt down. Here is my unofficial checklist for cards you need to get:

    Tier 1





    Tier 2



    Where can I learn more about the set?

    I have really only scratched the surface. There are so many more ways to learn about YGO as a Dice Masters set. What about rainbow drafting this set? Would you have any idea of what to first look for in a draft? For more information, make sure to check out Shadowmeld’s series “Reading the Rainbow” on YGO drafting.

    For our non-new players, do you agree with the above tier 1 and 2 pickups? Did I miss any that you would recommend?
    Comments 16 Comments
    1. mtsouth's Avatar
      mtsouth -
      The uncommon Injection Fairy Lilly might have a place on Vicious Struggle/AvX Hulk teams.

      When you assign this monster to attack, you may take 2 damage to give it +3A.
    1. OddballNarwhal's Avatar
      OddballNarwhal -
      Quote Originally Posted by mtsouth View Post
      The uncommon Injection Fairy Lilly might have a place on Vicious Struggle/AvX Hulk teams.

      When you assign this monster to attack, you may take 2 damage to give it +3A.
      It surely does. My version of that team is called "Take Your Medicine", and uses Spider-Man to clear blockers to allow the nurses riding giant hypodermic needles to swing for big damage.

      YuGiOh is great because, if for no reason, it allows you to play a game where Spider-Man webs up a bunch of people so that a group of nurses riding giant syringes can kill someone. Next time you wonder about the "validity" of YGO, just keep that in mind.
    1. jevansfp's Avatar
      jevansfp -
      Quote Originally Posted by mtsouth View Post
      The uncommon Injection Fairy Lilly might have a place on Vicious Struggle/AvX Hulk teams.

      When you assign this monster to attack, you may take 2 damage to give it +3A.
      I have seen it used on that kind of a team that won our local PDC with 20 participants.
    1. jevansfp's Avatar
      jevansfp -
      I would argue that the Buster Blader you have in Tier 1 is more of a Tier 2 team. A little more situational, but could be devastating against a Colossus rare team if you could make it unblockable.

      Also, notice how many SRs are on that list. You can pick up 90% of those for a few bucks (total) on the secondary market. Jinzo TD (rare) and BEWD (rare) will cost you.

      This has been said multiple times in multiple places, but I hate seeing Jinzo on the other side of the table. I wasn't ready for it and it ruined me at World's last year.

      JINNNZZZO!
    1. IsaacBV's Avatar
      IsaacBV -
      Quote Originally Posted by jevansfp View Post
      I would argue that the Buster Blader you have in Tier 1 is more of a Tier 2 team. A little more situational, but could be devastating against a Colossus rare team if you could make it unblockable.
      Was hoping to fix that before someone saw it, didn't mean to have him in the tier 1 area.
    1. geneinkc's Avatar
      geneinkc -
      I was one of those who bucked the trend when Yu-Gi-Oh came out. My son was very excited about it, and maintaining his interest in the game was a higher priority to me than the "meta". I even sold my only Gobby so that the proceeds could be used to buy a Yu-Gi-Oh starter and boosters.

      Overall, it's not that bad, even when you don't mix sets. In fact, I built a YGO-only team based around Obelisk the Tormentor, and it's a hell of a lot of fun to play. It takes some time to get going, but then once it's working, it's brutal.
    1. bahamut7's Avatar
      bahamut7 -
      Finally! Someone else gets it! I am surprise to not see Obelisk's uncommon and super rare on there. Regardless, as mentioned this set should not be ignored, there are so many more cards in here that are very potent. Many have yet to see their time.
    1. IgwanaRob's Avatar
      IgwanaRob -
      Pound for pound, the best selection of playable cards in any release.

      Don't forget Sangan - the personal polymorph, and Crush Card Virus
    1. StrangeBrew's Avatar
      StrangeBrew -
      The upside of being in a city with at least 5 FLGSs and several big box stores that sometimes carry Dice Masters, but isn't a real hub for OP store play, is that I can still find most of the sets at retail in single pack with the one notable exception of AvX. My set of D&D and YGO cards continues to grow, and even in a casual game play environment don't underestimate the value of playing with cards your opponent just doesn't know. Short version: If you're new and all of your friends are playing Marvel and DC, buy some YGO and see if you start winning more games.
    1. CobraCommander's Avatar
      CobraCommander -
      Yeah I SWORE I would never buy this set or the packs or look for cards in it. And then I got the competitive bug. One day I went to my first PDC, met shadowmeld, and traded for a whole set of yugioh c/unc. Then I met millenium puzzle and injection fairy and my life was changed forever. lol Now my best team runs 2 yugioh cards. I learned to embrace the madness of dice masters like you suggested here and you really need to for being competitive. Yugioh by itself may lack any kind of synergy. It's what I call a support set because for certain spot removals, retributive effects, and other characters that really assist specific decks it's just still a great set. And just from an artist/visualization perspective, the idea of spiderman getting rammed with a giant needle ridden by an anime nurse... well normally you gotta pay money in shady places for that kind of action. Cheers!
    1. ccm00007's Avatar
      ccm00007 -
      Great article, and oh so very true. I'd add a couple of points:

      -If you're considering ANY Thousand Dragon for anything other than the Rare's global (the SR can be pretty fun to play with), look into getting Time Wizard (who's in the starter) and Baby Dragon (just get the common) to go with it. I wish more characters used the Fusion mechanic, as it's really fun.

      -Red-Eyes Black Dragon: I've played two versions of him in different decks (the starter and the common). Both are lots of fun, even if they're arguably not the most competitive. The starter version can make bolt teams fast and furious (seriously, with him on the field, buy 4 Rocket Raccoon dice for 1 bolt each and see your opponent cringe), and the common is pure anti-Sidekick fun.

      Actually, you know what? My most important comment is: Just get the flippin' starter. It doesn't have any of the cards listed in the competitive list from the article, but it's got some good stuff to play with, including some great basic actions. Only downside: you only get one version of each character to play with (you still get 2 dice of each though).
    1. DoctorW's Avatar
      DoctorW -
      Has WizKids said whether they plan to make another YuGiOh set? Or did it flop badly enough for them to cancel plans for the entire series?
    1. IsaacBV's Avatar
      IsaacBV -
      Quote Originally Posted by DoctorW View Post
      Has WizKids said whether they plan to make another YuGiOh set? Or did it flop badly enough for them to cancel plans for the entire series?


      I would disagree that it flopped, but I do not think we will see another season of it. Time will tell though.
    1. pk2317's Avatar
      pk2317 -
      Quote Originally Posted by ccm00007 View Post
      I wish more characters used the Fusion mechanic, as it's really fun.
      It looks like "Fabricate" from the upcoming D&D set will be a similar type of mechanic.
    1. Shapeshifter's Avatar
      Shapeshifter -
      Uncommon Sangan is the Boss.

      Also, its worth mentioning, there are some solid basic actions in yugioh: Swords of revealing light, mystic puzzle box, horn of the unicorn, monster reborn.

      I would like to see another yugioh set with more Ritual, Fusion, dragons, and millennium Items. I'm not a big yugioh fan, but don't need another Marvel set with a lot of characters we've already got in the game.
    1. ccm00007's Avatar
      ccm00007 -
      Quote Originally Posted by pk2317 View Post
      It looks like "Fabricate" from the upcoming D&D set will be a similar type of mechanic.
      Indeed it is. And it doesn't just send them to prep; it explicitly "KO's" the characters in question. I'm afraid Fabricate might actually be too powerful for its own good. Time will tell, of course, but I can see Solomon Grundy's price spiking soon.